marxism, liberalism, LGBTQ, Islam is just reactive abuse.
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here are some evidence to back up my claim. Usually in the Christian faith if someone doesn't want to convert to Jesus or to listen to Jesus. You try usually around two or three times and then you walk away. These groups like LGBTQ and someone don't take no for an answer. If someone politely tells them that they don't want to be a part of what they're preaching about. They're automatically called a bigot, or called a homophobic person. When phobic means to have a irrational fear. And in the Quran, it says to lie to the infidel and convert them to your religion no matter what you do. I'm not gonna sit here and lie to you, though, there is some uninformed Christians out there who do the same thing enforce their ideals onto everyone else and think they're denomination is better than everyone else's. But in most cases Christians do not force their ideals onto people. They walk away after the person tells them enough times to stop. No one looks like forced to me? When you're told to stop and still bring it up in schools, and try to bring it the kids that's not OK. I don't know, I'm just one person out of billions. But I noticed something is going on with this world and it's not pretty. God tries to use peace and love to help people but he can get angry. He's a person. I don't wanna be gay or a Muslim or a liberal. Based on the evidence and how they react even the Democrats are all angry. If your group is supposed to be sovereign, why are you miserable following it?
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I think there are a few different things being mixed together here. You have every right to say that you don’t want to be Muslim, gay, liberal, Marxist, Christian or anything else. You also have every right to object when someone refuses to respect your boundaries. Tolerance has to include tolerating people who disagree with us. But your claim that “the Qur’an says to lie to the infidel and convert them to your religion no matter what you do” is simply false. There is no verse in the Qur’an that says this. And frankly, if you’re accusing Muslims of dishonesty while inventing something that our scripture supposedly says, you’re demonstrating the very dishonesty you’re accusing other people of. You may be thinking of taqiyya, another concept that is frequently misrepresented. It does not mean Muslims have permission to lie to non-Muslims in order to convert them. It refers to concealing one’s faith when under persecution, coercion or duress in order to protect oneself. Qur’an 16:106 specifically discusses someone who is forced to outwardly deny their faith while their heart remains secure in belief. That’s rather different from “lie to infidels and convert them.” In fact, the Qur’an is remarkably explicit about religious coercion. Qur’an 2:256 says: “There shall be no compulsion in religion.” You cannot force somebody to believe. And Surah Al-Kafirun ends with another very direct statement: “For you is your religion, and for me is my religion” (Qur’an 109:6). The preceding verses repeatedly reject the idea that either side must pretend to worship what the other worships. In plain language: you follow your religion and I follow mine. The Qur’an also specifically recognizes Jews and Christians as Ahl al-Kitab, “People of the Book.” Qur’an 29:46 tells Muslims not to argue with the People of the Book except “in the best manner” and says, “Our God and your God is one.” Islam recognizes the original Torah and Gospel as revelations from God and recognizes Moses and Jesus as prophets, even though Muslims obviously disagree with Jews and Christians on important theological questions. You also said that God loves everybody, including Muslims, even though you believe He doesn’t approve of what Muslims do. That’s your belief, and I can respect your right to hold it. What saddens me is when that same basic respect isn’t extended to another person’s religion. You don’t have to believe Islam is true to respect me as a Muslim, just as I don’t have to believe Christianity is theologically correct to respect a Christian. I also don’t think Islam, LGBTQ people, liberalism and Marxism belong in one category. One is a religion, one describes groups of human beings, and the others are political or philosophical traditions. There are pushy Muslims, pushy Christians, pushy liberals and probably pushy stamp collectors. That’s evidence about human behaviour, not evidence that these completely different things are somehow equivalent. And Christianity isn’t historically a religion where Christians ask someone two or three times and then simply walk away. Christianity and Islam are both missionary religions. Both have histories of peaceful persuasion and coexistence, and both have historical examples of coercion. So I actually agree with your underlying principle: people should be allowed to disagree without being forced to conform. Ironically, that’s much closer to what the Qur’an actually says than the statement you’ve attributed to it. Criticize Islam if you disagree with Islam. There are plenty of genuine theological issues we can disagree about. But criticize what the Qur’an actually says, not something somebody on the internet told you it says.
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