A post inspired by Casey, but also a curiosity question
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LordLundin
To add to that, it's harder to diagnose autism in blind people because a lot of behavior are things that naturally develop due to the socialization factor.
The cute cuddly furball
I think it feels really good to rock and as long as you rock in the rocking chair, you’re all good.
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King Tripple Whopper
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King Tripple Whopper
Some blind people do it because it can be a form of self-stimulation or self-soothing: the movement gives the body rhythmic, vestibular input when visual input is reduced or absent. It can also happen when someone is bored, excited, anxious, or trying to regulate attention, and it is most often discussed in people who were blind from birth or lost vision very early.
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Lord America
Many behaviors that people sometimes associate with blind people, such as rocking, swaying, or repetitive movements, also appear in sighted people. These types of movements are often ways the brain regulates attention, stress, energy, or sensory input. Examples of similar habits that sighted people may do include: Bouncing a leg or shaking a knee while sitting Tapping a foot on the floor Rocking back and forth in a chair Swaying while standing in line Pacing while talking on the phone Walking around while thinking Tapping fingers on a desk Clicking a pen repeatedly Playing with objects like keys, jewelry, or a phone case Twirling hair around a finger Touching the face repeatedly Rubbing hands together Cracking knuckles Stretching repeatedly Adjusting clothing over and over Shifting positions in a chair Biting lips or chewing on the inside of the mouth Humming or making small sounds Whistling without noticing Repeating certain words or phrases Looking around the room while thinking Drumming fingers to a rhythm Wiggling toes inside shoes Moving a chair back and forth Shaking a foot under a desk Fidgeting with a watch, bracelet, or ring Scratching an itch repeatedly Playing with hair, beard, or eyebrows Moving the head slightly while concentrating Making facial expressions while reading or thinking Walking in circles or pacing while working something out Needing to move while listening or talking Some people with conditions like restless legs syndrome, ADHD, anxiety disorders, or tic disorders may experience these behaviors more frequently, but many completely healthy people do them as ordinary habits. The main idea is that repetitive movements are a normal part of human behavior. Blind people may have certain repetitive movements more visibly because of differences in visual feedback and learned habits, but sighted people also rock, tap, sway, fidget, and repeat movements for many of the same reasons: comfort, concentration, stress relief, or stimulation.
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Lord America
It’s pretty sad. We’re trying to show able-bodied people cited people that we are equals. It’s just our eyes that don’t see. And then you get people who give their opinions that they have every right to, but in a way enhancing that stereotype that blind people are different that the rocking the swaying that’s something cited people don’t do. But cited people do similar things as I wrote in my previous post. They tapped their feet repetitively sometimes, shake their knee up and down, restless leg syndrome, PACE back-and-forth when speaking on the phone, play with a beard on the mustache or hair, while thinking, crack their knuckles for relief, so they do things that are equivalent to rocking back-and-forth and swaying. It’s not a blind syndrome. It’s natural human behavior that sometimes we want to do repetitive things to calm ourselves or because we’re thinking or for relief from stress.
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Lord America
Repetitive movements such as rocking back and forth, swaying, tapping a foot, bouncing a leg, or playing with an object like a pen are not behaviors that belong only to blind people. They are examples of normal human behaviors that many people do for different reasons. Throughout life, humans often use repetitive movements to help regulate themselves. A person might bounce their knee while thinking, tap their fingers while concentrating, click a pen while waiting, pace while talking on the phone, or sway and move their body when they are stressed or trying to feel calm. These actions can help with comfort, focus, releasing nervous energy, or simply giving the body something to do while the mind is busy. Some blind people may rock, sway, or make other repetitive movements, but these behaviors are not proof that blind people are fundamentally different from sighted people. Similar types of self-soothing, repetitive, or fidgeting behaviors are also common among sighted people. The difference is not that blind people have these behaviors and sighted people do not. The difference is that certain behaviors may be noticed more often or may develop for different reasons in some blind individuals. But the basic human behavior behind them — moving, fidgeting, repeating actions, and using movement for comfort, concentration, or stress relief — is something that many people experience. Rocking, swaying, tapping, bouncing a leg, or fidgeting with objects are not “blind behaviors.” They are human behaviors.
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Missy
I would say I agree with James. Or hello. Lol! I've seen my sided brother tap his leg so much if the whole table moves. It may not be a versus cited thing.
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The cute cuddly furball
Nobody sits around and judges blind people like that we’re just a passing thought no more. Anyone that has that much time on their hands to sit around and sit in judgment of blind people 24 seven really needs a better life.
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Missy
I think that winter blue tardis hit the nail on the head. Blind people don't have the stimulation that cited people have, so they have to do something in order to be stimulated.
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LordLundin
@Lord America are you using AI to tell blind people about blind people behavior? Also yes ... sighted people do stim as well, but can often find a more normative way of doing it ... because if they don't they get feedback which people are otherwise too polite to say because it's also not a big deal, but big enough to where engaging in said behavior is just a bit more abnormal. Now, you can call it shitty but we live in a sighted world, and our lives would be so much easier if we tried to follow societal norms. Ain't no comfort in standing up for the principle when that principle leaves you looking like a weirdo.
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Lord America
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King Tripple Whopper
Well, respectfully, I’m sorry you feel that way but that’s totally fine and you have every right to believe what you believe! Nobody even said about hierarchy or anything of that sort! But, that’s another debate for another thread! So, have a good day
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King Tripple Whopper
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I’m sorry you don’t like people disagree with you truly!
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King Tripple Whopper
By the way, I also believe that there is a hierarchy in the community, but if you would’ve just simply stated it in a way where you weren’t bashing me, then we would’ve come to an agreement that there are points that we can all state with confidence we all can agree upon! Such as your hierarchy example in the community, but we were not talking about that and it completely changed the topic!
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The cute cuddly furball
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Missy
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Missy
I don't think this is just indicative of the blind community. I think anyone who feels inferior will act like this. And I'm talking about the ones who think they have to tell us what they do for a livin. g
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The cute cuddly furball
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Lord America
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