Do we need a new blind community space for more open-minded and NSFW content and conversations?
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Charles H
Lots of people in the states use Signal, but the ven diagram between those people and this community is likely very very small. There is nothing wrong with having a space on this app for NSFW discussions if Josh is willing to work on all the systems it would entail to create those spaces thoughtfully and in a way that protects the app's longevity. There is also nothing wrong with people who want that kind of content using another service and continuing to have our normal conversations here. It's not like Ramblio users are suddenly banned from the rest of the Internet.
Brandon Cross
Daisy
Yeah, I have Signal, but I never open it because so few people actually use it. I got it for a specific group that I'm no longer interested in participating in, and the bulk of my interactions are still on Whatsapp and iMessage simply because that's where all the people are. Or at least it's where most of the people are. There is definitely a real resistance to doing anything even slightly less convenient, including downloading an additional app and setting up a profile on it. But then, maybe people who want this kind of nsfw space are the kind of people who would be willing to do a few extra steps to get it. I just feel like all of this is overcomplicating the issue when it doesn't need to be that complicated
Mendi
I would be open to the idea of signal. Also, I believe that WhatsApp is working towards making usernames rather than phone numbers, but no idea when that feature will actually arrive.
Charles H
I would argue that people are already posting NSFW posts on here with the weed/vaping posts. Regardless of how you feel about that content being here, especially with younger demographics making their way onto the app, I'm wondering if there needs to be a policy defining what Ramblio considers NSFW so we can then decide which types of posts should go where. This conversation has also helped me realize I would like a way to filter zones in my main feed alongside my suggestion that certain zones that contain sensitive topics should be locked out of the public feed, if we do get to a point where an adult content zone is created.
Matt Cooper
Trey culver
A solution to this WhatsApp group issuing people not wanting their phone number showing would be to set these kind of groups up on Signal.
Anthony Rose
That's a really good point about the age varification factor. Over the years, there have been several WhatsApp groups for adult conversation, but they come and go and they have their own issues. A really big one is that most people don't want to join a group where their phone number is visible to anyone who happens to join the group.
Charles H
I think having an adult content space is fine as long as those posts don't show up in the main thread. I think for legal purposes, if that content were explicitly allowed on this app, Josh would have to implement age verification and that would start a whole other conversation about accessibility in the age verification process. Personally I think everyone should have the ability and space to discuss what they want to discuss, but you probably won't find me in it. Maybe 10 years ago but not now.
Matt Cooper
Daisy
Interesting. Do you think then that it doesn't need to be turned on if it's just for swearing, or that swearing should just be lumped into the general category of adult content? I'm just curious because I feel like there are people who might be fine with a little swearing but less fine with sexual content, so it feels like kind of an unhelpfully broad label in that case.
Matt Cooper
Daisy
I don't know about the explicit filter because when I see that, I assume it just means there's swearing in the post, and that's probably the only reason I would use it. I wouldn't want people to see a post I make that's marked explicit and assume there's sexual or drug-related content in it and skip it on that basis. But admittedly I don't actually know what it's meant to indicate or when we're meant to use it.
Matt Cooper
Brandon Cross
could go to the r/blind discord... They're very open
Daisy
I think what we're saying is that we don't feel like an entirely separate group on an entirely separate platform is necessary, unless I guess you wanted people to have the ability to make text posts and not just audio ones. I'm sure you would find people who are interested if you decided to make one, but I'm also sure one already exists out there on either Discord or Facebook. Facebook seems more likely to me.
Anthony Rose
I'm both open-minded and a bit of a voyeur, so none of this stuff would bother me at all; I'd probably enjoy most of it, and the things I didn't like, I could just scroll on by or block or mute. Yes, Vorail did have a bit of over the top stuff right out in the open feed. It freaked some people out, so I can understand why this would be approached with caution.
Trey culver
I was saying do we need another entire group for example on Facebook Discord or Reddit. And to be clear maybe in an SFW zone on Ramblio would be a good idea. I completely agree with the comments posted here. Just to be clear, I wasn't suggesting having a separate area of Ramblio, I was saying do we need another entire group for example on Facebook Discord or Reddit. And to be clear maybe in an SFW zone on Ramblio would be a good idea.
Daisy
This is a good point, an nsfw zone isn't a bad idea and it could work the way Josh has suggested the external audio uploads zone would work, where people could choose to filter them out so they didn't show up in the main feed if they just didn't want to see any nsfw content. But also, no one has really posted anything very nsfw yet so it's possible that the user base of the app so far just isn't interested in that kind of thing, not that the app itself isn't friendly to it.
Mendi
Daisy
We saw this back in the old days of Vorail, to the extent that people were putting up posts of themselves having sex and inviting others to do the same. There's no moderation at all over there, which I think is why a lot of this happened, and I wouldn't care to be in a space like that again because self-policing doesn't work. But I wouldn't be opposed to a space where more nsfw topics were encouraged. I don't know that this isn't that space though, there have definitely been posts where people are smoking weed already, and I would imagine that when the app is out of beta, it will attract a wider pool of people who will have an interest in those nsfw conversations. I think we need some sort of content guidelines here so we know which kinds of things are allowed and which aren't.