Katherine gets mad about data privacy
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CallMeAl
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Katherine_Amethyst
Oh my god... that is pure insanity! I think I'm gonna go live in the woods now. I just... I just can't with people.
Matthew J
Uber was caught jacking up the costs of taxis if the passenger's phone battery was low. There are apps in the US which help nurses and medical professionals get contract work, and they literally coralate how much they pay that nurse with how low their bank balance is i.e. if you're desperate you'll take the lowest possible wage, but they can still charge the client full wack, pocketing the difference. There was a data coralation that happened a few years ago, which used phone IDs to triangulate which catholic priests' phones were located near gay bars. My point is just that data is never neutral, and privacy may be new conceptually, but it is necessary.
Matthew J
So I agree that the concept of privacy as we now know it is a western thing and quite a modern one. That's completely true and fair. But to what extent does that fact matter? I'm not sure we should be comparing what our modern values should be in the society we live in, with a completely different societal structure, having different rules and norms due to the different capabilities of each way of living. I think our modern sense of privacy developed because we needed it. And no AI is unfeeling and unjudging. Giving corporations ever more access to data about us has proven negative effects.
Katherine_Amethyst
I could not agree more with everything you said! This is truly inescapable. I guess the best thing I can do at this point is learn how to limit tracking as much as possible.
Albano
Katherine_Amethyst
I guess I never thought of it this way. Well, I suppose I'd rather have an algorithm know about my penguin lust than my neighbor or aunt, but what worries me most is that the people in charge of these AI algorithms are usually malevolent actors, unlike most neighbors or family members.
Calum
I guess I have a very different view on privacy than most people I know, in that I feel that our modern concept of privacy is very western centric. In most of the world, people still live in villages and tribal structures, tightknit Communities where its very difficult to have a concept of privacy because everyone already knows what you’re doing. But now, the whole world is that village and I would also say that is the information that’s being collected is not being reviewed by a person, if I was to hypothetically buy an erotic book about penguins, it would be an unfeeling non-judgemental AI algorithm that would catalogue the information. 
Matthew J
zackmack2000
There really isn't much that you can do about it. I live out in the middle of nowhere in Mississippi where you can't get much of anything. Yes i'm sure still it may be tracking me at some point, but all I do is just tell whatever I don't want to track me not to do it and just go on about my business. That's just how us country rednecks roll. I hardly ever use Lady A anyway so I usually keep the privacy mode enabled on my echo show unless I have to use it for something, And that's pretty rare since I have it on all of my Windows machines. Back in my day growing up we didn't have all this here stuff, hell all we had was dial up. Digital, that's just the way things are going these days. Unfortunately we just have to adapt to it like we adapt to life itself.
Katherine_Amethyst
Thank you so much for your insight on this! So glad to hear from you because you probably know loads more about this than I do. I did hear though that the UK will have digital ID by 2026 and that honestly scares the crap out of me! Not enough people are talking about what the release of digital ID will allow corporations and/or the government to do to us! The UK also has all that AI age verification stuff happening so yeah I don't know. I'm unsafe no matter where I go.
Matthew J
I'm a data privacy lawyer doing this kind of work professionally, so um...I 100% relate to this. We are being tracked, and its very difficult to prevent that. Europe/UK is a little bit better than the US in this regard due to better laws but yep. We're in the machine I'm afraid.
Gordon
I think you probably are already doing everything you can. I imagine you're probably asking apps not to track you on the iPhone when that option is available, and you probably have your privacy setting set to the highest level possible. So you're doing the best that you can really do. My suggestion would be just to simply not stress over this and keep living the way you have been. And wait for the next data breach like the rest of us. Lol 
Katherine_Amethyst
Gordon