Vorail
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Blinky X
Honestly, I don’t need any assistance in order to punk Gordon or expose a back end without doors. Trust and believe, none of these Developers are as powerful as a Gembroken version of Gemini with the right prompt and instructions. Had Gordon been able to hold his shit a little longer before running back to Vorail yelping like the little diva he is. Would have loved sharing my POC, but that’s not necessary or wise at this time is it? Gee whiz; and to think; I could have had a V8!
Franchise
I gotta say some of y’all need to stop trying to make analogies that y’all think are clever because they are making absolutely no sense. Secondly, Gordon you literally screamed and yelled at that man to prove what he was saying was true and he did it now from you on here you literally are saying you’re not mad at Josh. I don’t know what you and Dale got going on, but I can honestly say I’ve seen you on several threads. Tell that man he got a pretty cock sucking mouth and all types of shit lol and now somehow this is turned into people saying you’re being bullied first of all as a man you got a dead that because you know you’re not being bullied you guys are both disrespecting each other straight up and down. I really feel like you’re just mad because you really thought he was lying and he couldn’t do what he said was happening just take that l man we all are wrong sometimes I don’t know Josh, but from listening to him, I legit believe in my opinion that if anyone would have came to him, especially if he saw how you were basically daring someone to get your messages he would’ve done the same thing for anyone in that moment and I think he would have regretted it the same way he did today did he make a mistake? Yeah, we all do but damn I just feel like y’all really aren’t mad about the privacy issue y’all just like talking shit and like I told you earlier Gordon, I don’t know you enough to really speak past what has going on today and yesterday, but you say you got some big shit coming later so let’s see what it is if you really feel as strongly as you do let’s see if you back up what you’ve been saying tonight but as far as people talking about bullying and all that shit come on now we all grown as hell in here and no one is being bullied. Every last one of y’all is talking some crazy shit to each other. That’s why I can’t do the arguing thing because no one wants to have real conversation and once someone gets in their feelings and realize they’re really not getting what they thought they would get it turns into oh people are ganging up on me or oh someone is being bullied that shit is corny that word gets thrown around way too much
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Casey
I came back to this discussion after reading through the comments, and it got me thinking. If you really consider the situation, could this entire community, collectively, have grounds to pursue legal action against Tom R.? I’m certainly not a legal professional, so I’m asking out of genuine curiosity. If someone refuses to remove or delete another person’s personal data and continues leaving it publicly accessible on the internet for anyone to obtain, wouldn’t that potentially violate privacy or data protection laws? Does the fact that some of us may have paid for the service at one point somehow justify his actions, or could there actually be a legitimate legal case here? I’m genuinely interested in hearing what others think, especially anyone with legal knowledge or experience. I've genuinely wondered about this particular thing for quite a while now. I've never liked Tom R, and I've been very public about that. So much so that he has muted me. And absolutely refuses to speak to me. Not that I've attempted to contact him, just so we're all clear.
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Franchise
And I don’t know Dale either, but he legit has said in almost every response to you that he doesn’t agree with what Josh did and wouldn’t do it himself so IDK why you keep coming at him in that way you gotta come with some better comebacks my guy and before y’all say I’m keeping for anybody just like with Blinky I don’t know him. I’m just speaking off of the facts that are in front of me. I don’t know Dale I’m just going off of what I’m seeing on here and I’m not disagreeing with him
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Dan 26
Casey: what you’re describing is basically what Blinky X has been doing
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Casey
And Dan, knowing the kind of man Calvin Roberts is, this should come as no surprise to absolutely anybody.
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Dreamer
One thing we gotta take an account is that Josh has already apologized. However, this is what ChatGPT would say on the topic. Of course legal experts would have a better understanding obviously so please take this with a grain of salt
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Dreamer
This depends on both the technical facts and the applicable laws, but in general there are two separate questions: 1. Who is responsible for the security vulnerability? 2. Who is responsible for accessing the data? Those are not always the same person. The app developer’s responsibility If the app’s server exposed private voice messages through a publicly accessible URL without proper authentication or authorization, that is generally considered a security vulnerability. The developer or company operating the app is typically responsible for designing and maintaining a secure system, especially if they promise users privacy or charge for the service. For example, if anyone who knew or guessed a URL could listen to private messages, that is usually a failure of access controls. The person who accessed the messages Whether that person “hacked” the app depends on what they did. If they: * Simply visited a publicly accessible URL that the server exposed without bypassing any security, some people would argue they did not “hack” in the traditional technical sense. They merely accessed data that the server improperly exposed. * Intentionally searched for those URLs, collected private messages, or continued accessing information they knew was not intended for them, many people would still describe that as unauthorized access or exploitation of a vulnerability, even if no password was cracked. Legally, many jurisdictions focus on authorization, not whether sophisticated hacking techniques were used. Someone can violate computer crime laws without breaking encryption or bypassing passwords if they intentionally access information they are not authorized to view. What does “breaching” mean? “Breaching” isn’t a precise legal term. It can mean different things: * Data breach: Private information becomes accessible to unauthorized people. * Security breach: A system’s security is compromised. * Breaching a system: Informally, gaining unauthorized access to a computer system. In your scenario, if unauthorized people could access private voice messages, that would generally be described as a data breach or security breach, regardless of exactly how they got in. Who is accountable? It’s possible that both parties bear responsibility, but for different reasons: * The app developer/operator may be accountable for failing to secure users’ private communications. * The person who intentionally accessed or listened to private messages they knew were private may be accountable for their own actions, depending on the circumstances and the law. One person’s security mistake does not automatically make another person’s intentional access permissible. An analogy Imagine an apartment building where the landlord accidentally leaves every apartment door unlocked. * The landlord is responsible for failing to secure the building. * If someone walks in and reads tenants’ mail or looks through their belongings because they know the doors are unlocked, that person may also be responsible for their actions. The unlocked door explains how access was possible, but it doesn’t necessarily make the access authorized. So in the situation you described, the insecure server and the person who intentionally accessed private messages are separate issues. The app owner may be responsible for creating the vulnerability, while the person who knowingly viewed private communications they were not authorized to access may also have legal or ethical responsibility, even if they didn’t use advanced hacking techniques.
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Blinky X
Is that, “Casey No Nuts” talking shit from behind the block button?! Hmmm, he still mad cause he’s got no nuts and the fellas on his old job wanted him gone cause he started acting too much like a bitch once his testosterone levels dropped below 0 and he started shaking his ass on the job like a stripper! Facts!
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Mother Fucker
Hi everyone! What in the fuck you all talking about? Theres like over 330 comments? The fuck????
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Mother Fucker
Was it found out that Gordon is a stripper? Oh dang!
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Mother Fucker
How did somebody get this info? hahaha!
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Mother Fucker
And what the fuck is Vorail?
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Dreamer
I don't know where that question went that was asked but it was a good point. So here's the answer that ChatGPT would give on this scenario. You can ask more questions yourself for clarification obviously
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Dreamer
There are two important questions here: Did Person A authorize the test? If Person A knowingly asked Person B to prove the vulnerability, and Person B reasonably relied on that request by asking Person C to perform the test, then Person A has, at minimum, authorized the testing process in some form. The remaining question is whether Person C reasonably believed they had authorization. If Person B accurately conveyed Person A’s request and Person C reasonably believed they were acting with the account owner’s permission, that is very different from Person C acting on their own. Does being a developer create extra responsibility? Professionally, developers are often expected to act ethically and respect privacy. Many would choose to: * Verify that the account owner actually consented. * Limit the test to only what was necessary. * Avoid retaining or sharing the data beyond proving the issue. * Encourage responsible disclosure to the app owner. However, merely being a developer does not automatically make someone legally responsible if they reasonably believed they had the account owner’s permission. Can Person A later say “Person C shouldn’t have done it”? They can certainly express that opinion, but if Person A initiated the request and authorized the security test (directly or through Person B), it may be difficult to argue that Person C acted entirely without permission, assuming Person C reasonably relied on that authorization. For example, imagine this analogy: * You own a safe. * You tell your friend, “Find someone who can prove whether this safe can be opened.” * Your friend hires a locksmith. * The locksmith opens your safe and shows your friend the contents. * Your friend shows you the contents as proof. It would generally be inconsistent to later claim the locksmith acted completely without your authorization if your original request reasonably implied permission for that test. One caveat A user’s permission to access their own account is not always the same as authorization from the service provider. Depending on the service’s terms of use and the applicable laws, a company may still argue that testing or exploiting its systems was unauthorized even if the account owner consented. Whether that argument would succeed depends on the jurisdiction and the specific facts. So, based on the facts you’ve described, Person A’s later claim that “Person C should never have done it” is weakened if Person A initiated the request and Person C reasonably believed they were carrying out Person A’s instructions through Person B. That said, the app operator’s responsibility for any underlying security flaw remains a separate issue.
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Blinky X
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Dreamer
yall should go soo vorail ll
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Calvin didn’t want access to your private messages. He was merely stating that people with the right knowledge could access said information, grow up there bitch boy this backfired on you and you know it. Just admit it you got what you asked for you told him to prove it you didn’t tell him how to. the million dollar question here is why is it that every time Gordon has the truth pointed out to him. He goes straight to the homosexual comments.
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Franchise
Yeah dreamer I don’t know what the hell I was doing. I accidentally deleted the question but glad you saw it and the answer is pretty much what I thought it’s just a really sticky situation but I think people are missing the point well, not people but Gordon in general is missing the point that he really yelled and asked for it repeatedly not once not twice not three times but repeatedly and he has to take accountability for that. I just really don’t think he thought that it was possible why that reason is IDK because I for damn sure, believe shit like that is possible and as we see, it definitely is.
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Blinky X
Since I know no one from Vorail would warn others that the app had been breached. They’re selfish like that and since Tom R didn’t tell folks about the time the app was pulled from the App Store, you wouldn’t hold your breath waiting on him either. So, crazy ass me is going to start writing an update to be posted on Apple Vis so that the rest of the community doesn’t get tricked. Into believing it’s a safe and secure place when we all know better. You’re welcome
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Replying to @Blackdragon: There are two important questions here: Did Person A authorize the test? If PersYes, but what if person a boards a train at 6:30 in New York to see person C in Tahoe? How long does it then take person be to figure out what the fuck is going on?
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Replying to @josh: I'm really not sure why everything has to be reversed or re-explained - I thoughI’m not exactly sure what you’re apologizing to that man for, you gave him exactly what he asked for. Now, did he ask you directly, no, however, he asked it publicly. If he had specifically wanted Calvin and Calvin alone to do that, well pun intended, that’s what the inbox is for.
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The Anti Christ Super Star
This is typical Gordon, this is what he does. He tells someone prove what you’re talking about and when that person does or when someone else does, all of a sudden Gordons the victim.
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Blinky X
If you order a pizza; you shouldn’t assume that the person you spoke to on the phone is going to be the one to deliver it.
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Fault? You asked Calvin publicly to prove to you that that app could be breached in that private messages could be taken from it correct? Yes, that’s what you did publicly you asked him that, once you asked him that publicly that gave anyone else who was publicly listening the ability to then go in and do what you were asking Calvin to do. Fault? No, more like your own stupidity. Didn’t think it through Did yuh big guy. Gordon, if you’re so goddamn important if you’re so goddamn smart why don’t you develop your own goddamn app? You could call it Gordon’s purtie mouth. And because you talk about it so much and seem to be an expert in the area, you could teach people how to suck dick
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Replying to @gordon: Well I’m finally going to try to go to sleep especially since I don’t have to woAs a young child were you told a lot well Gordo there’s always next time? I asked that because it seems like you’re always telling everybody you just wait and see, you just wait. Well, just like childhood Gordo we’re still waiting
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Pinkachu
Motherfucker here is Blinky x using an additional accountso he can read people’s comments here
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Pinkachu
Guess what guys. Blinky was on Vorail. And there was non stop drama. He left. And magically Vorail is more peaceful. People who hated each other no longer hate each other. Blinky is now on Ramblio. And I present to you exhibit A. Can you see a pattern yet?
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Replying to @gordon: And you Dale are still able to justify it. You can’t say that Josh did somethingYou’ve never once stopped to think that he did it just to shut you up, to prove you fucking wrong. You seriously think it’s because he likes Calvin over you? Narcissist? Paranoid? Abandonment issues? Lonely? I’ll bet that if he could, Josh S would ban both of you twats, but then you’d both just cry and complain You were being bullied or treated unfairly because of the color of your skin or some such shit
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Replying to @gordon: Well Pikachu that behavior is perfectly acceptable over here on Ramblio if the pYo, inbred, redneck, the word you’re looking for is majority. Glad I can help.
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Dreamer
I want to create a post on vorail but I don't know how to use this old ass app. Gordon is over there misleading people with his retard level of analogies - which do not explain the hole picture but only provides his victimhood perception that he has the incapability of escaping. And apparently he claims to work in the news industry when he clearly lacks the ability to understand any other perspective than his own. So yes, he is over there defaming ramblio, Josh, and dale by providing an incomplete portrayal of the story and events leading up to this point. Primarily by excluding himself from the situation in which he gave permission publicly and is sitting his fat self telling people that Josh had hacked the server unethically, apologize, but is not willing to discipline his moderation team. According to him. Again nothing clear enough for full understanding lmao
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Replying to @gordon: Josh thought that he could handle me alone and that everybody else would come ouComments like these just prove that Freud was right. It couldn’t be more obvious just how shallow and delicate you really are.
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Replying to @gordon: He tried to make it right earlier by apologizing, then someone who directly reprHow could anyone ever consider Josh a God when clearly everyone thinks you are
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Gordon, just how the fuck do you get anything done in life on your own because clearly over here you need everyone’s help just in a simple dispute with Dale. You can’t even handle it on your own. You keep making comments like everyone see how Dale is this everyone see how so and so is that? Hey everyone hey everyone it’s kind of sad.
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Replying to @gordon: I think that Josh really should shut this app down. I was against it earlier butYou seriously think the developer and the moderators are playing favorites, Gordon you fucking moron if I said when everyone was thinking and told you that you need some lead salt, Peter and brass in your diet, I’ll bet that comment would get taken down.
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Replying to @gordon: Now I know that some people are going to give Josh a pass on this because it hapWe do Gordo, we do. We see this for exactly what it is, you getting your face shoved in your own shit then crying about it.
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The misfit angel
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The misfit angel
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Replying to @gordon: And I know that your girlfriend cannot stand me Josh. I hope that she wasn’t oneWhat the actual fuck? So after he repeatedly apologizes to you, which, in my opinion, there was no need for, you bring his girlfriend into the conversation, you are seriously fucking unhinged. Something is fucking wrong with you. I can see why you’re obsessed with dick sucking, you secretly wish that your mother had done more of it
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The Anti Christ Super Star
So it’s clear that some have more of an issue with Calvin being given the private messages not so much the blueprint on how to get them and less of an issue with the fact that private messages could be accessed in the first place. Y’all have some fucked up priorities and further record. It is interesting to see how Calvin Binns the knee for Whitey on this app but not the whitey on the other app. Wouldn’t want anyone to think that I am playing favorites
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The Anti Christ Super Star
Replying to @gordon: Well it’s obvious that I’m not one of your favorite people out here I’ve heard lCan you provide proof of where and when you heard said comments, what exactly was said? You’re the one that’s all about receipts and wanting proof. You claimed she doesn’t like you and that you know she doesn’t like you and when she told you, she doesn’t even know you you said that you’ve heard her little comments about you. Gordo time to put up or shut up
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LordLundin
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Gordon
Well the big problem out here is how can anybody have a safe experience if this is really Blankey X‘s app. And based on what we saw go down Saturday night I really have to scratch my head and wonder. Blinky X is a lot like Fresno in the phone world. Fresno is an idiot, Fresno can’t do anything alone, Fresno needs other people to do his dirty work for him. And of course Blinky X was able to commission Josh to be his soldier. ;be
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Gordon
I kind of thought something could be going on behind the scenes when Dale became a moderator of this app. Dale has a major history of being a total jerk, so I thought it was very odd and out of place. But after what Dale was seeing out here last night, it’s plain and obvious why he’s a moderator because him and Josh think the same. Dale said that he might not have necessarily did what Josh did Saturday night, but he refuses to say that Josh shouldn’t have done it. Now this might not seem like a big deal to some of you because what happened Saturday night happened to someone besides you and you know how those things go. But what if it is you at some point. How deep does this love fast go between Josh and Blinky X? How far will Josh go for Blinky X? How powerful is Blinky X now that he has Josh doing his dirty work for him? Blinky X Saturday night went from being just your average uneducated wannabe to someone who’s got someone with a little intelligence riding shotgun.
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Gordon
So at the end of the day some of you will probably laugh about all of this, some of you will say that I deserved what Josh did to me Saturday night because I asked for it. But just wait until Blinky X needs him to do something to you? At that point you probably won’t be laughing so loud anymore. When this app first came out it really seemed like it was doing everything for the right reason, it honestly seemed like it was built from integrity at the very top. Then, Dale was named a moderator. So I’m thinking OK, Dale is just one of Josh‘s buddies from the UK and this is all about Josh just hooking up his buddy with a little power. But then, Saturday night happened. And we were starting to get through a lot of that, but then Dale came out here last night doing his thing. If you can’t truly see what’s going on out here, your eyes aren’t the biggest cause of your blindness.
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Gordon
Dale is really no more than a Blinky ex, he just has a little more intelligence. Or at least I meant to say he can come across as having a little more intelligence than Blinky X. But at the end of the day, nobody should have to listen to Dale about anything in life. He should never have power over anything. Dale doesn’t even have the intelligence to monitor a mouse trap with a dead fucking mouse on it. Fortunately for Dale he was able to land a woman with a college degree, one who can support him. Now Dale has finally made his family proud. He moved to the US and he’s not begging for money anymore from other family members. Everybody stand up and applaud Dale. He finally did it through a woman via proxy. Now he has a nice house to post photos of on Facebook so the family will finally think that he did something with himself. And since him and Josh both think alike, he’s got a little power out here too.
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Pinkachu
I’ve got magical powers, I can hear people piss from all the way in Sweden
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The Blind tech motivator
Comments, 360
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Josh from missouri
Here we go again. Just like Philmore and my tele space this shit just keeps getting better or repeating the same old thing but instead of on phone systems and now we’re out here and it’s the same repeat can we go to the next show? I’m tired of the reruns. It was amusing for a while, but it’s now old. I’m sure some others would probably agree with me. will put all these people that like to do this on their own little island where they can fight each other, our own little survivor series.
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Gordon
I can hear people too and other places. I just heard Dale asked his wife for money so he could do a DoorDash order for lunch today while he is out here moderating.
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