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  • The AI wizard

    Replying to  @mazikeen: I’m absolutely terrified of trains like I hate being anywhere close to 1 because

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  • DJMixMastaJam

    I don’t understand why folks wanna bash NFB so much. They’ve done a lot for the blind community whether people choose to recognize that or not. There are good and bad about every blindness, consumer organization. NFB is not the enemy here. I choose to be part of the solution instead of just being part of the problem. Creating drama and problems will not get anyone the results that will lead to a desired outcome.

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  • The AI wizard

    Go get Gemini to help you research those things I mentioned, it should give you plenty more fuel

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  • Amber

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  • Doug Lee

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  • Amber

    Replying to  @theblindwarrior: Audio

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  • The AI wizard

    And just FYI, anyone can Google the Uber NFB settlement document and read it themselves it’s all public

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  • Amber

    Replying to  @txblind: Audio

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  • Amber

    Replying to  @txblind: And just FYI, anyone can Google the Uber NFB settlement document and read it the

    For my own mental sanity, I probably should not read it lol. It already makes me furious just hearing about it from you lol

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  • CyberGeek

    In reference to the stated Pizza Hut story, which I know is going back a little bit in the thread. But, I’m fairly sure what is being referenced is the dominoes case, and not Pizza Hut. And while I’m not a stated proponent, or opponent of the NFB, that specific case should be viewed with more contextual understanding. The NFB initially turned in multiple bug requests, that were completely ignored, before sending out a legal action threat. The reason it became national news was because Domino’s reply was to say they could not fix their app and website because of the financial burden. They stated it would cost close to a half $1 million to change a tiny inaccessible delivery widget on their website and app. It was that ridiculous statement, and flat out lie, that caused the escalation. And believe me, as someone who works in accessibility, that which it could’ve been fixed for less than 10 grand.

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  • Amber

    Replying to  @Dayton: In reference to the stated Pizza Hut story, which I know is going back a little

    That makes sense. Because in that case, it is discrimination because if it were just a simple bug that everybody was experiencing, they’d probably fix it no problem.

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  • Amber

    Exactly. And that’s where they navigated away from the training is that now they’re focussing on making the other people feel wanted and respected.

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  • The AI wizard

    I thought the NFB lost the Domino’s case.

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  • CyberGeek

    No, although I did have to look up the details to verify my memory. The NFB was actually not the plaintiff in the dominoes case. It was an individual that brought that case. She was assisted some by the NFB in the initial court case, but then they became much more involved during the appeal process. But they were still not listed as a plaintiff. All that to say, Domino’s did lose the initial case, and lost the appeal as well. It was ruled the dominoes website had to be compliant with the ADA

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  • Amber

    That makes sense. I mean, if we all want to be treated equal then that’s what has to happen I suppose.

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  • Micah

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  • Doug Lee

    The identity of an organization should necessarily center around its purpose; so the NFB, ACB, etc., being centered around blindness makes sense. Individuals should of course have a broader sense of identity, whether they are in such an org or not. I would say faiths, though, necessarily define a lot of a person, at least based on the religions I have most experience with, which are Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.

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  • CyberGeek

    Again, I am going to state, as neither an opponent or proponent of the NFB itself, it does seem strange to me to criticize their pursuit of lawsuits against organizations and corporations that are in a direct violation of the ADA, which is the core of all disability rights. Feel free to criticize the organization as a whole if you wish, but I do not understand that specific criticism. Are we all not in better situations when digital products are more accessible. Do you think all of the financial banking apps became compliant out of the goodness of their heart ? Or that all of the streaming services decided to support audio description on their own?

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  • Kinnick

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  • Micah

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  • CyberGeek

    @Micah, Definition of propaganda: information, especially of a biased or misleading nature used to promote a particular cause, doctrine, or point of view. Do you really not see the irony here? Seems like you’re so lost in your conviction and beliefs, the healthy ability to question yourself is no longer possible. And know, this is not a conservative or liberal viewpoint at all. Personally, I think both the extreme right and the extreme left are equally idiotic. But then again, what do I know, I’m just one of those indoctrinated imbeciles that got good grades in K through 12, university, and graduate school.

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  • Micah

    This isn’t a political conversation. Your attacks mean nothing to me. The fact that you think those grades mean anything is pathetic. Us “uneducated” people are the ones who saved this country. You probably voted for that skank Kamala.

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